tv Acting FBI Director Questioned on Meetings with President Budget Request CSPAN June 21, 2017 6:51pm-8:00pm EDT
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mccabe talked about james coley's leadership of the bureau at a house hearing on the annual fbi budget. texas congressman chairs this appropriations subcommittee hearing. it's just over an hour. >> will come to order. the subcommittee is pleased to welcome today acting director andrew mccabe to present the fiscal year 2018 budget request for the federal bureau of investigation. the fbi is our premier federal law enforcement and investigative intelligence agency which makes headlines with cyber threats, espionage or international organized crime. the fbi leads into terrorism, counterintelligence, national
security outlets by combating gangs, financial fraud and human trafficking in public corruption. it is the indispensable partner to state and local law enforcement agencies and our liaison with the federal law enforcement partners. we are very grateful that the fbi's leading investigations into the wednesday morning shooting, and we are deeply grateful for the work your officers do every day and for looking into an this terrible tragedy. were very, very grateful for the work of the capital police, the law enforcement officers of alexandria who saved a lot of lives that morning. for all first responders who came out, our thoughts and prayers are with majority whip, matt micah, special agent david bailey, special agent krystal grammar where the victims of the senseless crime and we pray for their quick recovery. the fact that face our director and safety of all americans appears to be growing and raised
from terrorist groups such as al qaeda, isis, espionage, cybercrime, international organizations, that traffic humans in drugs in violent crime. we articulate concerned about the terrible epidemic of human trafficking which, unfortunately, used the texas interstate ten has been a hub for far too much of that. there's too many young women whose lives have been destroyed in this terrible traffic and i look forward to visiting what about what the fbi can and is doing and what we can help to support your work to fight human trafficking and expedition of young women. above all, the men and women of the fbi no how immensely proud the subcommittee is congresses of their work and that we will work together, arm in arm, to support you, to help you with the resources that you need to continue your important work to protect this great nation. we are, however, facing difficult budget situations, mr.
director, unrelenting pressure to turn budgets and we have also to ensure our constituents that their hard earned tax dollars are being spent wisely and frugally and effectively. we are immensely grateful for your service to the nation and pleased to have you with us today. before we proceed, i'd like to recognize the ranking member of the subcommittee, gentleman from new york for his comments. >> like to join you in welcoming acting director mccabe before the subcommittee. this is a turbulent time for the federal bureau of investigation. for reasons not of the bureaus making, i think it is important, however, that we take a moment today to think the rank and file of the fbi for their hard work and service to our nation. please, mr. director, pass along our gratitude to the fbi agents and professional staff around the nation and abroad.
as a career fbi employee, i am glad that the acting director has a chance to testify before us this afternoon. i believe that your insights into the agency in the wake of the director comey's firing are vitally important in helping us to understand the impact of that action and subsequent statements by the president on agency morale. the budget request of 2018 include a slight reduction of $44.6 million from the amount of the fy 2017 and this is ironic given the fact that the majority of the fbi budget falls under the defense spending side of the ledger where the president has proposed a 54 billion-dollar increase. apparently, none of that increases for the fbi. given your important role in protecting our nation, this is very troubling. i'm also concerned that the justice department to the
process of giving less priority to critical civil rights and voting rights protection, that have long been upheld by the department. fbi plays a crucial role in investigating violations of our federal civil rights laws, including the voting rights act, and the color of law violation. it is important that your ability to maintain these important roles is maintained. i hope we can discuss your ongoing efforts today in the text of the policy changes being put forward by the attorney general. additionally, i'm interested in discussing your execution of the and ics system which conducts criminal background checks for firearm purchases. you have requested 136 fewer personnel to conduct background checks in 2018. this is problematic because this reduction will increase delays and allow more sales to go forward after three days.
trend without the necessary check and likely increase over time for an already overworked staff. this proposed cut seems like an unwise decision that will harm public safety. lastly, i think it is important to discuss the ongoing investigation into russia interference in last year's election. i am curious about how your work in this area dovetails with the ongoing investigation by the special prosecutor and whether fbi personnel or resources have been detailed to director muller. thank you for your service, sir. as acting director and other parts of the department, i look forward to your testimony. >> thank you. >> we recognize in your opening statement, which is the same it
will be entered into the record and it is entirely without objection. if you could, keep your remarks to five minutes. you for being with us today, sir. >> is that better? again, thank you for your support for the men and women of the fbi. we can have all the money in the world and all the best technology but without the amazing people of the fbi we won't be able to keep the american people safe. i'm proud of these individuals and i'm grateful for their dedication and hard work. we are all grateful for your continued support to our mission. as you know, the fbi is in a time of transition and it has not been easy on any of us. doctor cumming was a thoughtful and inspiring leader. he fostered a number of priorities to make the fbi better and stronger. from improvements in the way we
collect, use, share intelligence are cyber programs, to leadership in diversity issues. we are going to do our best to make sure we continue to make progress in all of those areas. the threats we face are constantly evolving and we too must continually see examine the way we can do business to ensure that we are doing everything we can invest way that we can. i firmly believe that the fbi maintains a sacred trust with the american people to protect them and uphold the constitution. we do that with the precious resources that those people in this committee give us. the fundamental elements of that sacred trust is making sure that we are always good stewards of the taxpayers money. we have tried to be good stewards of the funding provided in the event conservative in our budget request. we ask for what we need and when we need extra in certain areas, we don't hesitate to tell you and yes, we haven't been to talk about today.
the fbi's budget request this year proposes a total of $8.7 billion in salaries and expenses and this will support positions and 12484 special agents, 2950 of which are intelligent analysts and 18099 our professional staff. we need every single one of those people. they are the lifeblood of the fbi.
>> >> sent to do that we have to hire the best cyber challenge. the counterintelligence area we're asking:$19 million to cover threads and we will also use the resources to focus on insider threats from trusted employees prepare in the area that we refer to as going dark 21 when $6 million to address this problem and i can tell
you this is more than just for communications is a part of the issue but not the entire part also with our ability to execute lawful court orders on electronic devices and that is a growing problem, a violent crime is one of the highest priorities for good reason and it challenges our partners at the state local and tribal level every single day we're asking 33 positions $33.4 million with the attorney general task force for for reduction and civilians area we're asking to sustain so that period of time that character in -- counterterrorism targets
decides to operation allies their intent and within you are most concerned with those modalities of weapons we have seen earlier today that will further compress that time going from flash to bang in with those death threats unlawful surveillance with those highest priorities in that is the reauthorization of by is the section seven '02 but gives us the authority to collect foreign intelligence outside united states this intelligence is incredibly important to us a tool for the u.s. government and if
we lose a the country will be less safe without a word it twitter of a window to the terrorists of weapons proliferators we don't know what day are planning or recruiting and with that executive legislative judicial branches that is just the way we want to be. weld we're asking for resources against the criminals sources also to go against our technology center to go against -- reno we can count on those resources we need to keep the country safe for we're very grateful for that. in conclusion the fundamental things of the fbi will not change the commitment and the core values respect and
compassion and fairness and integrity and accountability and leadership and diversity and of course, adherence to the constitution. these are the values that made the fbi what is today to focus on the mission creep doing great work with your support and i am happy to take directions. >> your salaries is below the 2017 appropriation notice of the assumption that we would be under that a continuing resolution -- resolution which did not happen but it appears to leave the fbi with the whole and to help us assist you with that we are asking would this affect the ability to address terrorism
and homegrown mileage extremism?. >> it will impact us in many ways. it will touch every program and headquarters and field offices. it is not possible to take entirely consider it will touch every description we will lose agent positions and of course, professional staff. as you know, we went through a period of sequestration a few years ago reduced 3,000 positions it has taken is quite some time to hire our way back to full strength we're on target to be close to full strength the with these reductions that you describe will take us back word a step. >> we will have the final
word on that we strongly support your work and we will do our best to help you to make sure you have an adverse impact. the fbi request $8 million increase for surveillance of high priority targets. why is that a priority and how was it different from current surveillance needs?. >> we are in good shape right now but all personal funding allows it enables us to protect 70 positions that our likely to have been added the demands we have placed on surveillance over the last several years has grown with those homegrown violent extremist in the targets grow there are those of me to keep a close eye on on the day to day your 24-hour basis so those resources become all the more important. >> as i mentioned in the opening statement the
effects the whole country but there is the terrible problem with young women being sold into slavery it is the catastrophic situation talk to us about the work the fbi is doing to fight even trafficking. >> in the southwest border area with field offices addressing border issues we have made a significant investment in terms of the task force in the work we do with our partners that danda just and frequently we find ourselves looking at organizational crime groups engaged did human trafficking so that combined work to be as productive and as effective as we can but we recognize it is a growing threat and we are focused very closely to make sure we
have the right people doing that works period the budget request what can the committee do to help or what additional resources do you need?. >> i think the most viable thing at this point is to restore those reductions that we are likely to see from 2017. >> what are the main challenges the fbi is encountering regarding the supply chain considering the concern of those trojan horses?. >> incredibly important area right now we have tried to extend our reach across the government and the private sector we're in a unique position to see those threats coming in from counterintelligence and we try to spread that to utilize the best practices document to let people know
these are the threats they need to know across the government and it is important and has been great to see the last several months the administration has a deep interest to address the things we have seen from the program a lot of ways to be more effective to monitor foreign investment with high tech industries that would help in that area. >> mr. chairman, i am concerned at the special counsel even -- to appointed to investigate between united states and russia will not have adequate resources. is special counsel provided with full access to all resources needed for the investigation?. >> it is. i can assure you that i've had many interactions with
the special counsel and we are meeting over the next. . . hours to discuss that we have a great number of folks who were leading up the team and i have assured director miller we your doing everything we can to deliver those resources to do that work. >> that fbi investigation continues concurrently with the special counsel investigation or have all resources necessary been transferred to director mahler's office?. >> call have been assigned to that after to to director mueller the fbi continues to maintain responsibility for counterterrorism issues including the russian adversary so we still do work with russia
counterintelligence it we are careful to leave to the special counsel. >> director comey felt uncomfortable he said and told general sessions that meeting with the president so that you met with president trump or how many times and would you feel uncomfortable meeting along with the president?. >> have met with president trump on a very few occasions which there have been many other people present. i have not felt uncomfortable in those meetings. i'm sorry what was the rest of your question?. >> would you feel uncomfortable to meet alone? >> we have a well-developed
and long known white house contact policy and i am aware of what that policy is and i do everything it can to ensure my contact with the white house president trump or anybody else's in with the scope of that policy to talk to the deputy attorney general about that any contact that i have with the president is approved by the deputy attorney general. >> these questions have to be cast have you been asked for a loyalty oath from the president and if not what would you do if you work?. >> i will answer the second part first for i have taken in those already to united states of america to protect and defend the constitution that is the only '05 will take so that is not an issue for me and regarding specific conversations with the president i don't think
that is appropriate for me to discuss in this forum. >> something that came of the heather day -- the other day mr. rogers right after 9/11 gave a lot of money to the fbi. years later i asked director mueller to you think that terrorism is the main focus that we play more heavily on the terrorism part rather than white-collar criminals or drug dealers or public corruption and at that time he said there was the over emphasis on terrorism. so carryback to the situation where the guy
selling drugs in my community were supplying those drugs is not getting away with that?. >> i confess to answer the question to say i think we're in the right place now with the emphasis and resources we put on those divergent programs for progression our criminal threats continue with the same way they do with the fbi and we will constantly emphasize constant vigilance against those threats we are looking to prioritize and could we do more? than those resources are finite. so at the same time and there is the period after 9/11 with our capabilities of intelligence organization and as response to terrorism
but the required a broad and deep evolution to our approach i feel pretty comfortable to say we have done the hard work every year in a different place to day then we were. >> rest assured i will support the chairman to make sure you continue to have the resources because they're both important. >> mr. director, welcome. you talked briefly about transnational criminal organizations and the impact of those groups job of lead of narcotics coming into our country by way of mexico so what can you tell us about what you are doing to
disrupt those criminal organizations and the finances that is generated to allow them to do bad criminal things?. >> we feel the same way, hello? is that better? is it working? i will try to speak a little louder. pc it the same way that you do that is the place where fbi resources to focus in this fight there is work done across the country by our state and local colleagues with the place to
have the most value to bring our enterprise the area of investigation to that transnational crime groups we have done that by doubling the number of task force by bringing a the white caller experts into the fight and having agent specifically address for the prescription event opioids leading to the harassment overdose plaguing so many of the city's and also looking at mexico city and places on the other side of the border to interact with our colleagues were some of these groups emanating from. >> it is estimated these illegal profits from transnational criminals is $322 billion per year.
and we all know the narcotics problem is exploding in this country. all of which is coming to us through mexico. including benton al from china and the gains from mexico so what can you tell us that we believe we can get control of this. >> this is a problem and issue we cannot police our way out of it will require a whole government effort but i can tell you what the fbi can contribute the connection with a torn pardners to bring together enough fight there is border security issues and diplomatic issues with that problem that is how we see
the part of it. >> you are correct berkeley were only part of a solution with the dea and state department and other agencies working out pieces of the problem but it is a bad problem and it is eating this country alive. we have to redouble our efforts so very quickly switching briefly to another topic is cybercrime for cyberattacks according to cnbc cybercrime cost the global economy $450 billion annually in 2016 over 2 billion personal records were stolen over 100 million americans had their records to live five out of every
six companies were targeted in 2014 with a 40 percent increase over the year before and at the same time 50 percent of all targeted attacks strike small and medium-size businesses which typically have fewer resources to invest in cybersecurity. an enormous problem of cyber crime public and private sector poses enormous risk to our economy and national security. cybercrime quadrupled and may again as the lead federal agency in this space what are you doing to get in front of these threats?. >> it is a great question
cyberthat challenges us the most deeply and it changes every day so we are the lead fourth response we going in with our partners to figure of who did it and where it came from in order to do that i need the right people with the right background than talent and technology that is what we're doing right now to insure we have the tools we need to hire the right people to keep them on board and on target second is to take those cyberinvestigative skills to make sure we push out across our other operational programs looking at social media with network analysis lassoed need my people doing the same things we are
engaged in constantly rethinking how we engage this target to we have a strategy with the right people on it but it is a threat that continues to change. >> godspeed to you. >> mr. chairman and acting director i am very concerned about the overall of the fbi in the wake of their proposed budget cuts with the disparaging comments made by president trump. id your opinion was the fbi in tests -- disarray prior to firing director comey? did he have the support of the fbi leadership prior?. >> he did. it is not my opinion that it was in disarray but it is my
opinion and has been on a observation over the last few years director comey enjoy it a deep and positive relationship with the men and women of the fbi. >> thank you. june 2015 we saw the legal consequences of the background checks for was not discovered within the three day limit from dylan who went on to kill those nine people at a prayer service in charleston in south carolina and he never should have had that gun and you proposed reduction to staffing of background checks with the fbi with the omnibus spending bill with an increase of funding part of which includes hiring 1306 additional workers to conduct background checks this budget would cut that additional staff it is
inconsistent with this administration claims to prioritize violent crime reduction out with this budget impact the ability to complete background checks within the three day limit to have examiners confidently to identify any record?. >> the short answer is yes having fewer people to have checks makes it harder to get them done within the three day requirement. as you know, the numbers with are significantly behind and we are experiencing historic prices in the number of checks every year we every reason to expect that will continue so fewer resources will hurt berkeley try to cover those increases by extending large
amounts of overtime but that is not a sustainable way to keep the work force on target. >> this has concerned me for quite a while as they cannot -- experienced person do you wish you had more than three days or is it five days i have heard experts say they book include nine days so could you comment?. >> i don't know if i can give you that percentage of the top of my head but i will take that back and get back to you. i don't think folks understand the logistical challenge for to correspond with the many different jurisdictions to reach out to and canfor are resting and conviction history and the disposition of the criminal charges and it takes longer anytime as they
and three days to get a response over the network so some percentage of that lapses pass that three day period we would be better off if we could get that done. >> i appreciate that. did you can get back to us they think it is important to make policy to understand the hard work the fbi does and it is maya understanding that in many date -- cases three days is not adequate so you get back to us with what percentage you need more time and more staff to do the work that would certainly help us when it comes to background checks with. >> but it's something pops
up after you run the check then atf is directed to go after them to get the weapon?. >> correct. there are 80 days to continue to look to those files past the three day mark if we get that response than a referral is made. >> there is the 88 days safety because we're only human. >> acting director mccabe welcome. we're glad you are here. over the period of the southern border to concentrate resources on transnational criminal organizations responsible the budget u.s. requested funding to bring a threat
based domain pass these criminal enterprises. are you working together with homeland's security? also those these lines along the southwestern border to have that need to combat transnational criminal organizations so what can this committee do to help you with this issue?. >> and all personnel we asking to restore those positions those hybrid squads i cannot explain that much better than you have to bring the intelligence people together with the case officers or special agents or the task force partners to include many different elements from the department of a homeland security and all those
officers for whom those criminal issues at the border have an impact on their communities of those they protect. so as in all the work we do with the counterterrorism area with stronger with partnership to link up with of partners because that is the way for word that is the biggest way and i cannot overstate the importance to have a robust and well-trained stable population particularly in mexico city because you cannot work transnational organized crime within the borders of the united states but build relationships to work with your partners overseas. >> i agree we need to push
deeper and deeper so i agree with that. so your role is to coordinate with these groups ?. >> of course, we think we are well-positioned to with the cuts to touch field offices or headquarters in the way the 2800 -- the year 2011 -- 2018 will do was where it starts to get tough for us. >> let us know what you need. another issue you discussed building dark requesting 21.6 million dollars of what is called going dark for
that encryption. a understand the fbi has limited access to the 3,000 mobile devices they were unable to search even though your under a legal authority to do so the fbi plans to reduce these barriers to conduct counterterrorism investigations so please tell me more about those positions pleaded - - plan to go dark will they specifically support intelligence analysis to combat the problem?. >> yes, sir. so to clarify what you refer to so far we have received approximately 7,000 devices which court authorization
and a request most time of the partners, primarily for criminal cases or cities and towns across the country where currency people to get into 40% of those devices of little less than half has been credibly effected encryption is easier to use but that number will continue to decline but the bad news the best example that the resources we have asked for are those that are specifically addressed so we're talking about special agents and electronics engineers and computer sciences of those who are out in the field to have the ability and the tools and the training.
so that is rather resources are going also to maintain the systems that we now depend upon to allow the investigators to conduct the work they need to do on the internet in a way not attributable to the fbi. we have to be as good as our adversaries in to be those places where refined a threat. going dark is a multifaceted problem that is called for the tough choices across society and the substantial work to address those legal frameworks with the day to day in packs -- impact it is a challenge. >> mr. chairman thanks for
being with us into the men and women who work with the bureau in recent months we have seen an unprecedented rise of hate crimes we saw an increase between november of last year and march of this year i notice the fbi budget request does not explicitly mention any additional funding on this front i received a letter from the department of justice the attorney general reporting the hate crime subcommittee task force to highlight these efforts. so what resources will the fbi allocate and doesn't -- does the fbi have a role and can you give me an indication of how the status how they are in teaching with those affected communities?.
>> we have an enormous amount of work it is one of the requirements i put out of all special agents in charge to build the relationship into the communities putting us in a position to help us. hate crimes are a very big part of the civil-rights approach with color of law issues so it is a vital an ongoing effort that we remain committed with respect to the doj subcommittee will have to take that back and then we will get back to with those details.
is that where they address the issue? and as we're dedicated to combat?. >> we don't rely on funding for the civil-rights division it without a criminal program and that is responsible for keeping them for word. so with the questions around cybersecurity and the big focus is on line information sharing one of the pieces of feedback but sometimes that
feels like a one-way street so how do you assess the privacy of the law and then to prevent cyberattacks from happening or what is the fbi doing to those industries stakeholders? but clearly you are not good and - - we're not good enough we have those additional challenges in that cyberarea when it comes to classified channels it is to be
effective so that sharing is not timely with that private sector moving at a much quicker pace. so those interactions are more productive today. there is many reasons why the private sector partners with obvious productivity reasons so it is a slow chipping away of that resistance to get on site to handle a crisis or an issue to be as discreet as we can be. that legislation shows we have a lot of work to do. >> i represent southern west
virginia legislature man rodgers from apple asia you raised a point when asked about the southern border he specifically talked about a combat with boots on the ground those counties we don't have a field office down deep in the hardest-hit areas of west virginia and through that discussion with a special agent johnson i understand there is a willingness and an openness to put a field office of the hardest-hit impacted areas
is that a possibility?. >> is a we're discussing admirably so that is a satellite of the field office we had one in your area now we're back in the process actively discussing reopening that so once we've made that decision we will continue to push very recognize those challenges of the opioid epidemic is no presence of other federal agencies in the area of. >> i appreciate the interests safe where that is
communication and that impacts us so deeply so we remain committed to do everything we can unfortunately that has required a new cutting edge approach in that cyberarea to get the right to people to be engaged in the fight and then to interact with of children so we are committed but it gets tougher for to be more protected than the more remote. >> we look forward to working with you and i am
and when can we expect it to be completed?. >> i have to give back to those exact percentages when we have done a lot of work in the last year and has been mandatary -- mandatory a few months ago i have to get back to you with the numbers. >> so director:while testifying that committed to the database committed to seeing a project through the say the database should be up and running in a year or two what is this tavis link to expect that to be up and running?. >> with the use of task
force and with that database that you referred to in the last couple of weeks this on our commitment continues so we across the law enforcement committee need better data and most people recognize that to challenge that commitment to do the work that we need to get there but to have that time line by a 20/20 one. >> thank you for being here want to ask a question added the authority and independence of the fbi of a
interested in your take on the matter while the fbi operates as part of the justice department of course, due to the nature of the work historically it has been seen as relatively independent the fbi director is considered one of the most independent officials of the federal government for go deal agreed?. >> yes. >> several measures are put in place including the 10 year term. day believe that maintaining a relatively independent fbi is important to the integrity?. >> yes. >> back constitutional reality if appointed within the executive branch, that officials serves up the pleasure of the president
and then to become politically neutral in to reconcile those two realities. we have a long history of professionalism and independence. and i believe as you stated to be politically independent fbi have reason to believe that is not the case. >> are you aware if it is written down anywhere the conditions the president would relieve the fbi director of his or her duties?.
>> it and know where that is written down specifically but not from any appointee when he chooses to do so. >> and before those 10 years is up? i don't really have a view on that i will not play in on how the president decides. >> you look like a smart man >> looks can be deceiving. [laughter] >> another dedicated public servants will continue to do their work regardless of political pressure and turnover but i want to ask you how has the removal of
james scully affected more rolf?. >> -- more rows. >> as they said in the beginning his removal took many people by surprise and it was a shock, it was something we all had to come to terms with. however, the organization responsible for upholding the constitution dedicated to nothing other than the rule of law of the understand those rules and how their work is the president's privilege whenever he chooses to do so. we know we're getting a new fbi director and it has been my challenge to be focused on a mission during this time of transition. >> other than growl what is
the ability to carry out the crucial functions?. >> it continues to carry out those crucial functions and you have my word. >> i yield back. >> there is eight minutes left so i will quickly ask you director mccabe with those insider threat setter very dangerous or leaks can be damaging as we saw with edward snowden to cd and a say contractor to be prosecuted can you speak to everybody in the federal government house serious of a crime is it to leak information about the ongoing investigation that they will pursue every leaders to seek prosecution? >> the leaking of classified information is a federal
crime we have that jurisdiction to investigate and we will so in every single case referred to with how the process works it is absolutely vital to the functioning national security of this country to handle classified information in a responsible manner designed how it was to be handled some of people mishandle or share in ways they should not be below investigate this matter as it should be. >> most of the cases come down to mishandling or espionage there is a wide range i have to take a look at the statute. >> he will hunt them down. >> yes, sir,. >> if i could submit this
letter. >> attorney-general has taken some troubling attacks the past few months in my opinion further responsibilities of the justice department with consent decrees with the civil rights division within the instruction given to the fbi into this certain civil rights complaints. >> know we have not received any direction. >> not even one?. >> no. >>, many have failed and the sheer how does that compare to the last five years?. >> i would have to get back to you. >> we sincerely appreciate
your service to the country again i want to do thank you for what you do to keep the nation safe we will work together to make sure you have the resources that you need to continue to do your job. >> did thank you for all the support you have given us over the years. >> we are adjourned. [inaudible conversations]
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